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fhqwhgads
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No, I'm just saying, there's plenty of bigger problems that drain our funds more(like the $8,000 a second for Iraq/Middle East).Asii said:
Well, if we are to look at it from a financial perspective (which is what you kind of focused on in this part of your post), the best option would be to let him go so s/he could continue to buy things and stimulate the economy.Asii said:
If it were up to me (and let's hope it never is because anarchy never breeds a stable or successful society), I'd limit the power of the courts to punish people as much as possible, as well as the government's ability to tax people, so that problem wouldn't really come up.
If it was a serial killer, I'd say you're probably right, but most people who kill do so under specific circumstances that probably won't come up again.Asii said:
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fhqwhgads
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Everyone is physically capable, and most could make themselves mentally capable.x2 said:
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MR.KAZ
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x2 said:
Hi x2,
You have every right in the whole world to express your thoughts and beliefs that you hold so dear.Just because someone disagrees with you,that doesn't make you the "Bad Guy".
Don't ever betray your heart to pacify another,stand up and scream so everyone can hear your beliefs.To betray your heart and soul just to satisfy someone else,is a shame in the truest sense of the word.
When you speak from your heart,it will always be sincere.If someone confronts you and attacks your beliefs,hold onto them with everything you got.Betraying your heart just to avoid getting your butt kicked,is a tragedy of the greatest magnitude.
P.S. I am not a therapist,nor am I Dr.Phil I just want to help people who are sick,or feel as though they are lost in the world.
Sincerely,
MR.KAZ 1:8
MR.KAZ said:
Ah well thanks KAZ! That's one of the nicer things anybody has ever said to me on here :-\ I do feel very strongly with my beliefs sometimes and I guess it can get me into trouble, but it makes me feel whole as a person to express myself. Stuff like this is very sensitive so I always know there will be strong opinions on either side. But, when we can debate about it and stay civil, that is awesome! Thanks again, KAZ
fhqwhgads said:
Sadly, it has to be. You can't be passive with people that commit something as heinous as murder, especially when they have no remorse. There is always the possibility of making the prisons less comfy. Too bad America is filling up with more and more pansy sentiment and that wouldn't fly either. America's attitude on serves to perpetuate the problem. The answer boils down to stiffer punishment and less desirable prison conditions. I'm not just talking about murder. I also think that the death penalty should be in place for people that can't be rehabilitated or are repeat offenders.
KirbyRockz
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Mai Valentine said:
Saw II, anyone?
*freaks out at every needle he sees*
Mai Valentine
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I doubt I'd be able to watch any of the Saw movies, actually.
weaponepsilon
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Allow me to clarify.
I am literally no different in person than I am on the net. I do not say these things unless I believe in them. I have in the past rampantly expressed my distaste for the growing human condition of apathy and injustice. I don't know if that is purely an "American" attitude or not. In other countries if you commit a slight infraction, you are either beaten or made a public spectacle or both. If you dare to harm a child, a woman, someone that is that young...You are beaten to death in the street by your neighbors. I am actually not opposed to that. Here in America, we let you sit for five or so years before you even get to trial. Then if you are convicted, you get free room and board for life and maybe somewhere, you might feel bad about the crime you committed. More so, people are given minimal sentences and released back into society when they're more likely to commit a similar or worse crime. Again this a drain on our society, taxes, and legal system.
A good deterrent to this kind of garbage would be "If you are found guilty. You life is forfeit. You will be executed." Even an advertising campaign with this slogan would cost less to produce for the average spent dollar amount per useless trial.
Yes we are swimming in debt, a weak economy, a mortage crisis, a gas crunch, an unpopular war...We could help reverse our problem by actually executing prisoners. Think about it. We could eliminate government judicial spending on legal expenses for these dirtbags. Wholly emptied prisons could be renovated in to homeless shelters to benefit those who've been shunned and maybe help them get on their feet. Poverty could be history instead of daily news.
Thats just the tip of what could be done. We could be proactive and stem the problem by making these people think about the harsh consequences before they commit the crime.
What I am against is the younger generation (from the various samples I've personally witnessed) who have said, "Dude you gotta check this out: Some guy got his brain splattered! Awesome!" There are companies that produce the "too extreme, banned!" videos and actually make a buck. Wow.
I am literally no different in person than I am on the net. I do not say these things unless I believe in them. I have in the past rampantly expressed my distaste for the growing human condition of apathy and injustice. I don't know if that is purely an "American" attitude or not. In other countries if you commit a slight infraction, you are either beaten or made a public spectacle or both. If you dare to harm a child, a woman, someone that is that young...You are beaten to death in the street by your neighbors. I am actually not opposed to that. Here in America, we let you sit for five or so years before you even get to trial. Then if you are convicted, you get free room and board for life and maybe somewhere, you might feel bad about the crime you committed. More so, people are given minimal sentences and released back into society when they're more likely to commit a similar or worse crime. Again this a drain on our society, taxes, and legal system.
A good deterrent to this kind of garbage would be "If you are found guilty. You life is forfeit. You will be executed." Even an advertising campaign with this slogan would cost less to produce for the average spent dollar amount per useless trial.
Yes we are swimming in debt, a weak economy, a mortage crisis, a gas crunch, an unpopular war...We could help reverse our problem by actually executing prisoners. Think about it. We could eliminate government judicial spending on legal expenses for these dirtbags. Wholly emptied prisons could be renovated in to homeless shelters to benefit those who've been shunned and maybe help them get on their feet. Poverty could be history instead of daily news.
Thats just the tip of what could be done. We could be proactive and stem the problem by making these people think about the harsh consequences before they commit the crime.
What I am against is the younger generation (from the various samples I've personally witnessed) who have said, "Dude you gotta check this out: Some guy got his brain splattered! Awesome!" There are companies that produce the "too extreme, banned!" videos and actually make a buck. Wow.
weaponepsilon said:
Nice post. I completely agree 100%. It sickens me sometimes to see convicted murderers being escorted by tons of armed guards. Why the hell should they get any rights? So many times it seems like the media reverses things and makes it as if the murderer is actually the victim. It also saddens me that media will usually focus more on the killer than the victims. I mean, how many times do you see a dateline special on the victims? Nadda. But you'll see plenty of them on murderers. It's as if they get treated like celebrities. Real good deterrent there, eh? So yeah, I agree with you in that, if we treated these monsters how they should get treated, it might actually do some good. Because what we do now sure as hell is not working.
Here's my take on this. If someone killed one of my kids or my wife, I don't think I'd have any problems if he were put to death. In my mind, there is a huge difference between innocent life, and guilty life.
And to anyone who thinks that murderers should be set free should be required to live in neighborhoods that are filled with murderers, rapists, etc. I would also like to see how long it would take for them to change their opinion because most of them have no problems setting these people free so long as they do not set foot in their own neighborhoods. Hypocrisy at it's best. :
And to anyone who thinks that murderers should be set free should be required to live in neighborhoods that are filled with murderers, rapists, etc. I would also like to see how long it would take for them to change their opinion because most of them have no problems setting these people free so long as they do not set foot in their own neighborhoods. Hypocrisy at it's best. :
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MR.KAZ
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weaponepsilon said:
It's adults that corrupt the children,bad parenting.
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MR.KAZ
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x2 said:
You're correct about the criminal getting more attention than the victim.The Reno I believe is just what I mentioned a while ago,humans are attracted to violence,look at the "UFC',"Boxing",and to a certain extent,"Wrestling",along with "Prison Violence",not to mention "Shock Sites",that's why reporters gobble it up.
God bless.
Kazmaier 13:35
i'm sorry but part of me as a human doesn't agree that we should kill a person that committed a crime right in the spot, people can change and learn from their mistakes, and maybe after 10 years of being in jail they might learn to not commit a crime ever again, but of course that has to depend on the gravity of the crime, i mean i would agree to give death penalty to a serial killer that has killed 12 people already.