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Starrynite said:
Seriously, point out, in what year did Mario RPG sell at $5? There is no place, unheard of that ever did. Maybe $5 from a FLEA MARKET, but not in a place like Blockbuster.
I hate Japan right now >.> Wii's VC recieves SUPER MARIO RPG
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Seriously, point out, in what year did Mario RPG sell at $5? There is no place, unheard of that ever did. Maybe $5 from a FLEA MARKET, but not in a place like Blockbuster.
Honestly, the first sentence of that paragraph follows no logic know to man. You could rent it for $5 so it cost $5? Renting and buying are two different things.Starrynite said:
The actual retail price is $35. Here, I'll back it up with actual evidence: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00002SVG3/ref=pd_bbs_sr_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1212608723&sr=8-1Starrynite said:
$35 used. $550 new. Are you seriously about to tell me that paying $9 for a game that is so rare that it costs $550 new is a rip-off?
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Ah hah! Hilarious. You're whining they're greedy when they put in the cheapest possible for the consumers.Starrynite said:
Starrynite
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You cant say that the Amazon price is the real value for that is based on how much value people are putitng on these old carts, even then it isnt directly being sold by Nintendo. We may be commanded to play it, but certainly not required to get for this outrageous rip off of a price. You all can enjoy your Mario RPG's and waiting for it, but until I see it approach the 6 dollar mark I am not going to make an extravagant effort of trying to afford these rotten Virtual Console prices.
Any price above 5$ is a rip off for this old title! I cant believe that you are all so fooled into believing to buy it at the 8 dollar to 550$ price range?! Think people, think!!!
Any price above 5$ is a rip off for this old title! I cant believe that you are all so fooled into believing to buy it at the 8 dollar to 550$ price range?! Think people, think!!!
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Age =/= quality.Starrynite said:
Starrynite
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IF this were a total remake/rewrite then it would be justified for paying that 35$ price
IF this were an addition with additional additions, such as maybe an added character and a few modes and an update in graphics then it would be worth 9OO Wii points.
IF this were the exact copy of the original title with nothing added minus the cart, then it would be worth AT MOST 500 Wii Points.
IF this were an addition with additional additions, such as maybe an added character and a few modes and an update in graphics then it would be worth 9OO Wii points.
IF this were the exact copy of the original title with nothing added minus the cart, then it would be worth AT MOST 500 Wii Points.
Starrynite said:
THAT was the price of the original...if they made a remake it would be worth more than that.
graphics are updated a little bit if you have played a VC game at all you would notice the difference.
that would be at most 900 points >_> we are getting our money's worth
and you are commanded to play it as you are commanded to pay 200 bucks for a hannah montana concert, now that is a rip-off
Starrynite
Yes
What graphics are updated, what has been updated is the TV that people play their games. The games I play on the VC still look the same as the originals, no different except for that busted save system for all VC games (it takes the difficulty out of the game now)
WHOA, impossible, a there will never be a game that is of equivalent or greater worth than the price of a Hannah Montana Concert ticket. Do you think I would allow myself to get ripped off again by Nintendo's heinous pricing schemes?! Never.
If it was a remake then it wouldnt be on the VC, it would probably be on the DS or on the Wii and it would have tons more updates which is why the original is not 35$. That is what people believe they should sell it for. If a store was selling it in their SNES games section the game wouldnt go for more than 5$.
WHOA, impossible, a there will never be a game that is of equivalent or greater worth than the price of a Hannah Montana Concert ticket. Do you think I would allow myself to get ripped off again by Nintendo's heinous pricing schemes?! Never.
If it was a remake then it wouldnt be on the VC, it would probably be on the DS or on the Wii and it would have tons more updates which is why the original is not 35$. That is what people believe they should sell it for. If a store was selling it in their SNES games section the game wouldnt go for more than 5$.
What does that matter? The price is $550 to get the game new. Amazon and ebay are the only places to find the game new. It doesn't make a difference why the game costs so much, only that it costs that much.Starrynite said:
I could find the four "extra" dollars this game costs in my couch. Getting $4 isn't any "extravagant effort".Starrynite said:
It's an incredibly rare old game that has few copies in existence, and you are complaining because someone is offering to give it to you for $9, instead of $5? It's $4, for god's sake. Spend an hour looking around the house for change and you have that.Starrynite said:
Starrynite
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How is that going to look going around looking for 4 dollars in change then going to the bank to upload this onto my bank account and waiting for beurocracy to go through their processes. Its just not worth it even for this game, it isnt like this is the greatest game ever created. Its an old game!
$550 new, simply put find a garage sale and buy it on the downlow for much cheaper, its actual true worth now a fancy person who happened to have a pristine japanese edition or another version that they wrapped themselves and claim that it is brand new, or a used copy that is being sold for an outrageous price. Honestly, is this what people do for a living, buy games that are assumed to have some sort of value that doenst even go to supporting the company at all!?
The game is not incredibly rare, its just that fact that everyone packed their copies in storage and are too lazy to go through and find it, so it has driven the value up, thus leading Nintendo to drive the price up to an extremely high price to trick people into thinking they are getting it at a bargain price when it fact it is only worth 5 dollars.
$550 new, simply put find a garage sale and buy it on the downlow for much cheaper, its actual true worth now a fancy person who happened to have a pristine japanese edition or another version that they wrapped themselves and claim that it is brand new, or a used copy that is being sold for an outrageous price. Honestly, is this what people do for a living, buy games that are assumed to have some sort of value that doenst even go to supporting the company at all!?
The game is not incredibly rare, its just that fact that everyone packed their copies in storage and are too lazy to go through and find it, so it has driven the value up, thus leading Nintendo to drive the price up to an extremely high price to trick people into thinking they are getting it at a bargain price when it fact it is only worth 5 dollars.
Firstly, it's bureaucracy. I honestly have no idea how you got your spelling.Starrynite said:
Secondly, you look for change in your couch, and use it to buy a Wii Points card. There you go, you have the points now. There is no bank account, or bureaucracy involved.
Thirdly, many consider it to be the best game ever, and a game's age has NO baring on how good it is.
There is no guarantee of it working. Older, used cartridges are unreliable at best. There are two ways you can get a copy that has a good chance of working. You either buy it new, from a reputable seller for $500, or you buy it off of the Virtual Console for $9. The latter is cheaper than getting it used.Starrynite said:
You don't determine its worth. Go ahead and feel ripped off if you want, but its worth is determine by rarity, and demand for the game, not how much you feel it is worth.Starrynite said:
So buy it for less on the VC and support the company.Starrynite said:
The game barely sold a million copies. Fastforward 15 years. How many of those do you think are actually in working order?Starrynite said:
It is literally impossible to prove that. That is just conjecture.Starrynite said:
Starrynite
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You still have to go to the store and hope that you can get one of these hard to find Wii Points cards, they are still sold out. Plus that is so much to get, paying for the gas in the car and then finding the right store. Then even then uploading the points to the Wii Console, that is tons of effort to make just to even get the "400" points onto the console. If they would charge only the 500 then people could afford it with their leftover points.
It is more rare to own the cartridge then buy it from some seller online, what if they claim it is new but it doesnt work?! What then, the same thing happens. The best choice is local garage sales or the VC, but then the VC is overpriced so avoid there.
The worth is determined by the populus. If people didnt buy it originally then the worth would be low, if tons of people bought it originally, then it was a popular game thus it was some sort popular, and if the manufacturer released limited editions, then it would have high worth. Nintendo has clearly seen this and is now going to continue to capitalize on it. Dont you see how crazy this is?! Evidence indicates that people are fooled into believing that the game is worth a lot when in Nintendo's ledgers it is still worth the final price they sold it at. You buying it for any cost doesnt benefit the company only on the VC for their jacked up high price.
It is impossible to prove against the fact that people packed their copies in storage and are too lazy to go through and find the copy.
It is more rare to own the cartridge then buy it from some seller online, what if they claim it is new but it doesnt work?! What then, the same thing happens. The best choice is local garage sales or the VC, but then the VC is overpriced so avoid there.
The worth is determined by the populus. If people didnt buy it originally then the worth would be low, if tons of people bought it originally, then it was a popular game thus it was some sort popular, and if the manufacturer released limited editions, then it would have high worth. Nintendo has clearly seen this and is now going to continue to capitalize on it. Dont you see how crazy this is?! Evidence indicates that people are fooled into believing that the game is worth a lot when in Nintendo's ledgers it is still worth the final price they sold it at. You buying it for any cost doesnt benefit the company only on the VC for their jacked up high price.
It is impossible to prove against the fact that people packed their copies in storage and are too lazy to go through and find the copy.
LOL!!! Okay, you have got to be joking. Wii points cards are ridiculously common. The odds of them being sold out are astronomically low.Starrynite said:
Every store that sells the games will have the cards. If you actually have a credit card, you can just buy it straight from home. If not, you lost a dollar on gas.Starrynite said:
Because everyone hordes those points instead of buying an NES game with them, or buying an SMS game with 400. No, no, the logical thing to do is to leave them untouched on your account, instead of, oh I don't know, using them for the reason you bought them.Starrynite said:
This is relevant how? We are discussing the best way to buy the game.Starrynite said:
That is why you buy from a reputable seller like, say the virtual console.Starrynite said:
About one million people bought this game in the United States. This means that one out of every 300 people (roughly) owns this game. You would have to be incredibly, and I mean incredibly lucky to have someone within your general vicinity not only having a garage sale (which aren't the most common thing), but also selling Mario RPG, in worker order. You would have to be luckier still to find a seller who doesn't know that he could easily sell this game for $30. Then, there is a chance that the game that they are selling won't work. How is this a viable alternative to paying $9 to buy the game from the Virtual Console?Starrynite said:
That literally makes no sense. It's impossible to understand that because there is almost no grammatical structure. :lolStarrynite said:
The worth of the game is determined by how many people want the game, and how many quality copies are in existence. Many people want Mario RPG and few quality copies are in existence, thus the price is high. Call it unfair, or whatever, but these are the simple facts.
Show some evidence for once. Please, just once actually back up a statement with the facts you indicated you had in this post.Starrynite said:
:lol WHAT???Starrynite said:
Square Enix gets a huge portion of the profits that Nintendo makes off of this game. They get plenty of benefits from people buying the game off of the VC.
Of course there isn't. I wanted you to give me some evidence for once though, some irrefutable facts that prove that half of the Mario RPG copies out there are thrown into storage. I'm tired of random, baseless conjecture. I want you to actually back up what you say with facts.Starrynite said:
aleeock157
Ninja Kitteh
I would just like to add since I just got home from work and don't feel like responding in my own way to your ridiculous statements, that I would EASILY pay over $100 for a new, sealed copy of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars for the SNES. I don't even own a SNES.
Just my two cents.
Just my two cents.
Starrynite
Yes
I have yet to see a Wii Points cards in the stores here, in fact the only place I have seen to order them is on the Amazon.com. Using that system on the Wii Shop Channel to upload points is a hassle to do. Do I really want to take time to supply my card data and home and phone number and code number just to get a few points?! Of course not, and with the addition of Wiiware and other such Wii productivity software there is never any spare points to even use to support the 900 Wii Points required for this overpriced title. Rare or not rare, is that what people are using to justify the quality of this game?! Woe be to they who just want it cause its rare!
The best way to buy the game is obviously getting it from the Virtual Console. The best way to pay the game is to get it from a garage sale. Garage sales are quite commen and most have a high percentage of video games for the SNES on sale. I have never been to one in which games have yet to be focused. The carts are always tested to work anyway because the people have the SNES hooked up when they are selling these titles. Either people are going to the wrong run down garage sales or either people are just buying from the most untrustworthy of sources, just as the same when people buy for cheap on amazon and ebay and get dud titles that just have the picture of the game cart printed and a "downloaded rom" onto the cart instead of an actual original title.
The viable option is definitely getting it on the VC, but just not for the outrageous price. Althoguh Square and Nintendo could very well share the profits reaped from this, I doubt that is enough to justify charging us these outrageous premium of a price. But then again, Sqare always charges new for their DS games 39.99 so it could be possible since they are toooooo profit oriented.
There is plenty of evidence that shows that companies go against the assumed worth of a game and sell it for low. Why else would people buy a Wii on release date and then sell it for more than 100 dollars worth its actual retail price? That only justifies why these people sell the actual cart for 500$. And then the actual consumers resale the cart for only 35 dollars. The actual worth of the game is apparently only that outrageous 900 wiipoints based on the VC which is still too high for a title that came out nearly 10+ years agoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
What are we buying some golden egg of a game that was layed by the most impressive of mother hens?! No, it is just one normal little ole over famed nintendo game that is only praised for selling only about a million in the US and is a crossover of Mario in turn based style and Square people in their usual fashion and such.
The best way to buy the game is obviously getting it from the Virtual Console. The best way to pay the game is to get it from a garage sale. Garage sales are quite commen and most have a high percentage of video games for the SNES on sale. I have never been to one in which games have yet to be focused. The carts are always tested to work anyway because the people have the SNES hooked up when they are selling these titles. Either people are going to the wrong run down garage sales or either people are just buying from the most untrustworthy of sources, just as the same when people buy for cheap on amazon and ebay and get dud titles that just have the picture of the game cart printed and a "downloaded rom" onto the cart instead of an actual original title.
The viable option is definitely getting it on the VC, but just not for the outrageous price. Althoguh Square and Nintendo could very well share the profits reaped from this, I doubt that is enough to justify charging us these outrageous premium of a price. But then again, Sqare always charges new for their DS games 39.99 so it could be possible since they are toooooo profit oriented.
There is plenty of evidence that shows that companies go against the assumed worth of a game and sell it for low. Why else would people buy a Wii on release date and then sell it for more than 100 dollars worth its actual retail price? That only justifies why these people sell the actual cart for 500$. And then the actual consumers resale the cart for only 35 dollars. The actual worth of the game is apparently only that outrageous 900 wiipoints based on the VC which is still too high for a title that came out nearly 10+ years agoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
What are we buying some golden egg of a game that was layed by the most impressive of mother hens?! No, it is just one normal little ole over famed nintendo game that is only praised for selling only about a million in the US and is a crossover of Mario in turn based style and Square people in their usual fashion and such.
aleeock157
Ninja Kitteh
Starrynite said:
Actually, all you need to do is enter your City, State, Zip Code, and County. Wow, that's so difficult.
Secondly, woe be to you cause you have never experienced the awesomeness of SMRPG:LotSS. It's not the price that makes it sought after, it's the quality of the GAME. GAME
Starrynite said:
Wow I wish I lived in a world where SNES games are in Garage Sales. Nobody is that stupid to sell SNES games for cheap in Garage Sales.
Secondly, anybody who sells any kind of Video Game in a garage sale won't have it hooked up. :lol That's just brainless. Why would anybody risk one of their games not working if they want to sell it.
Third, aren't you the person who praises buying online to not deal with informed employees?
Starrynite said:
I hope you own a business one day, just so you can fail from NOT making a profit. I have a business, and I tend to want to make money. Helps me pay for these "bills" that come in the mail and pay for our employees. They charge what they do, because people will buy their games no matter what. If Miley Cyrus decides one day to charge $50 a CD, would you still buy it because you know, she is OH so popular. :
Starrynite said:
You know, nobody every said YOU have to buy it. I almost hope you don't, just so you don't have anything irrational to say about the greatest RPG ever created.
Starrynite said:
Lol.
Type in a few letters, and you have the points. Unless you have Parkinson's or are the laziest person in the world, that shouldn't be a hassle.Starrynite said:
AHHH!!!! *slams forehead against the desk*Starrynite said:
You just spent four pages arguing how ridiculously overpriced this was and how it would be much better to get it from somewhere else.
People don't have the SNES up if they're about to sell the titles at a garage sale. Why would you sell things you still play? Further, anyone who actually still played their SNES would probably have the intelligence to charge a crapload for the game, a lot more than $9. Also, what the hell does "games have yet to be focused" mean? Those words make no sense, in the context.Starrynite said:
It would cost three times as much as it does on the VC at the garage sale.Starrynite said:
And I'm seriously tired of you complaining about the fact that game companies want to make money. The entire industry came about because profit was possible. If companies didn't want money, there would be virtually no video games so stop attacking the system that brought about the entire game industry.
Are you really this arrogant? You have NEVER played the game so who are you to judge its worth?Starrynite said: