Why are games held to such a double standard?

In the beginning, when the Odyssey, and Atari 2600, gaming was viewed as little more than expensive, electronic toys. And perhaps this view was justified, as the earliest games were played almost exclusively by a younger audience, and were incredibly simple, due to the huge technical limits developers had to deal with. It has been almost 40 years, since Magnavox introduced the Odyssey, and gave birth to the gaming market, and times have changed since then. The first gamers have long since grown up, and, rather than leaving gaming behind, like so many other fond childhood toys, and memories, they have continued gaming.

The average age of gamers these days is rapidly approaching 30, and this demographic change has brought in huge changes in the games being developed. This more mature audience demands more mature games, and developers have obliged, by making games with more mature content, not unlike certain movies, or books. Some of the content in these games is a little much for younger gamers, but the ratings system stops them from buying games they can't handle. It's really no different than the ratings system for movies, and the content isn't worse in movies than games, is it?

So why then is there this huge double standard, that excessive violence, and sexuality are so taboo in games, but aren't given a second glance in movies? Clearly, there are gamers old enough to handle the content in these games, so why do games undergo constant attacks, for slightly risque themes, but books, and movies that could be equally "corrupting"?

Take, for example, the controversy that just sprang up around Mass Effect? Anyone who has played the game, as I have, can tell you that there have been, quite literally, thousands of movies that leave a lot less to the imagination than Mass Effect. In fact, I would say the nudity, in the game was no worse than that in Titanic, so where were the thousands of crusading soccer moms, screaming for Titanic to get an NC-17 rating, as there seems to suddenly be for Mass Effect?

Why is it okay for movies to have these things, while a game having them will cause mass controversy? Why the huge double standard?
 
Maybey the huge double standard comes from the part where you play it all out unlike movies. That's just a theory though. Titantic had the infamous nude sketch scene. Compare that to Mass Effect's sex scene. I think Titantic was a little more graphic than Mass Effect IMO.
 
Those people don't like videogames because they are jealous that they didn't have them when they were kids. I think the Mass Effect thing is ridiculous and I will personally buy this game just to spite these people.
 
Hinesmdc said:
Those people don't like videogames because they are jealous that they didn't have them when they were kids. I think the Mass Effect thing is ridiculous and I will personally buy this game just to spite these people.

Wrong. They don't like games cause people don't like change, change scares them and they will do whatever to keep their conservative opinions out there so that they can try to stop change.
 
Fr0dus Maximus said:
Wrong. They don't like games cause people don't like change, change scares them and they will do whatever to keep their conservative opinions out there so that they can try to stop change.
Yeah, these are the same kind of people, who were calling rock and roll the devil's music. How did the crusade against that one work out?
 
No matter what the era is there is always double standards with everything, games are just taking it big now cause the video game industry is booming and the technology is there to make the games of today the same quality as the movies. Personally, I would love to see an actual AO title (not the crappy ones that are out), that are actually good and are moving, it has been 40 years and we are still only at M and with staying at M developers are restricted from going all out on their games. I'm not saying sex or anything like that but, isn't about time we advanced onward to AO titles?
 
I say because it's easier to buy an M game than sneak into an R rated movie(even though that's incredibly simple in most cases).
 
fhqwhgads said:
I say because it's easier to buy an M game than sneak into an R rated movie(even though that's incredibly simple in most cases).

not on fault of the industry or the ESRB its on fault of the workers at the retailers.
 
Fr0dus Maximus said:
not on fault of the industry or the ESRB its on fault of the workers at the retailers.
And in quite a few cases, the parents not caring.
 
Exactly, I don't see how the mainstream media can say that "the ESRB needs to get its head check" or even blame it on the game itself when in fact its those elements that we mentioned beforehand.
 
Honestly, does anyone notice how when there is a little nudity in a video game, the press jumps on it like a pack of wolves, yet there are movies released that are full of nudity, swearing, violence and general profanity not seen in any video game?
 
Fr0dus Maximus said:
No matter what the era is there is always double standards with everything, games are just taking it big now cause the video game industry is booming and the technology is there to make the games of today the same quality as the movies. Personally, I would love to see an actual AO title (not the crappy ones that are out), that are actually good and are moving, it has been 40 years and we are still only at M and with staying at M developers are restricted from going all out on their games. I'm not saying sex or anything like that but, isn't about time we advanced onward to AO titles?
Well, honestly, what could an AO title really add? Most titles that are bad enough to deserve that game are stupid dating sims.

Although, I think it's almost a form of censorship, to restrict NC-17 movies, and AO games like they do. So I would like to see an AO game on the shelf, not because it necessarily has anything new to offer, but for the principal of it. By ensuring that AO games, and NC-17 games won't be able to turn a profit, the government is basically forcing people not to make movies, and games, with content like that.
Hinesmdc said:
Honestly, does anyone notice how when there is a little nudity in a video game, the press jumps on it like a pack of wolves, yet there are movies released that are full of nudity, swearing, violence and general profanity not seen in any video game?
That was the whole point of my original post actually. It's a huge double standard.
 
Hinesmdc said:
Honestly, does anyone notice how when there is a little nudity in a video game, the press jumps on it like a pack of wolves, yet there are movies released that are full of nudity, swearing, violence and general profanity not seen in any video game?

cause most movies now just use those to attract audiences. Plus Movies now a days suck.

@Cherry: Thats what I was getting at.
 
I agree with the first response, the difference is the interactivity of videogames.

Watching sex scenes or scenes of violence in movies is different because you are not actually controlling the characters on screen, you're merely watching them perform said actions. When you take part in a sex scene or a violent scene in a videogame, your involvement is an integral part of that scene.

It's one thing to watch a movie like Schindler's List where inhumane acts of violence are carried out by Nazi personnel to the Jewish race, but it would be another thing entirely to play a videogame as a Nazi carrying out those acts of violence.
 
stealth toilet said:
I agree with the first response, the difference is the interactivity of videogames.

QFT.

Part of the problem is also that despite all the studies NOW showing the average gamer is about 30, video games as a whole are still considered by many as something that younger people do (because that's how it was in the beginning), and therein lies the problem. If you assume that all people who play video games are under the age of 17, then of course you're going to jump to the conclusion that M-rated games are bad.
 
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