fhqwhgads said:
I still fail to see how that disproves my point that they hold more.
I can't see where you thought that I was denying that they hold more..per say... I was only pointing out that the larger capacity of the disk is worthless if the developer fails to utilize that space to give you a great gaming experience. While we are on the subject, CD capacity is limited. The cart is not. To me, that makes the cart format have the advantage and is better in regard to capacity. I have read that the N64 was capable of reading up to a 4 gig cart, although no game ever reached that during it's life span. Why would a larger capacity of a medium be better? A good or great game is not determined by the capacity of the medium that it is put onto. I enjoy Defender just as much as I enjoy FF12. There is a difference in the size and storage medium used in both games.
Really? That's funny, because I've always thought low productions costs help both ends. But gee, I guess companies paying less to manufacture them, letting you pay less to buy them...well, that just isn't beneficial.
Hmm.... give me some prices here, the N64 games sold for $49, $59, and there were a few that sold higher. The generation of CD gaming at the time of the N64 were only $10 cheaper. A savings of $10? (The games on the N64, like Zelda could not even run on the PS1.) I am walking into the store and seeing $59 to $69 for the present generation systems. The medium that they are using is only pennies in cost with the packaging costing the most. And the prices of producing a DVD has gone down over the years, not up. I pay only 0.30 cents for a blank DVD, the companies that produce these games can get them cheaper! Where is that benefiting me when it comes to games? I am not seeing any savings. I am not seeing lower prices. The present generation of game carts are selling for $29 to $39. And they are using different ideas and principles than they used in the past. And they are higher capacity in memory with the DS cart being equivalent to 1 gb.
Hold a disc in your hand. Hold a cart in your hand. Now think about what you said and tell me why it makes no sense.
Do you store your game disks that way? Do you throw your storage boxes away? Do you just stack your naked game disks in a neat little stack? What you are saying makes no sense. What advantage is the size of the disk that you are holding in your hand if you cannot store it that way? Especially if the storage box is so much bigger? I can store my game cart without the box. As a gamer, I would never store my game disc without the storage box.
So, 20 years from now, people will have old disc systems. And we've had cart systems for 20 years. I fail to see what that even means.
Maybe only three years for a 360.
In 20 years from now we may still have the old cart systems, but the disc systems will be questionable. And I say this with sadness. I have my Turbo Duo that I love, but it will eventually die because the moving parts are more prone to give out, more so, than non-moving parts. My Sega CD died not too long ago. Disc based gaming systems may not last 20 years. We will just have to wait and see. And I have a lot of CD based gaming systems. I see backward compatibility of newer gaming systems a very good thing. I may not be able to go out and buy that older system, but I can buy a next generation system to play all my older games. But in 20 years the average gamer will not care about retro gaming on any of these systems, they will probably be busy playing in their Holo deck system.
I think this whole discussion started because I like cart based gaming more so than CD gaming. I like the type of games that were produced on them more so than the disc system games. I am baffled as to why that would cause you concern? I still want a modern day cart based console, even more so after this discussion. The technology that we have today is so much more advanced. A small SD card type cart could be used like in the DS.
I think that both Zelda N64 games will always be looked back on as classics. They are a fitting final song to the days of the cart based home console. It is sad to even think that the N64 was the last home based console.
